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What does the disciple need to understand?
The explanations I give you may be understood
by the mind, but this is not the real understanding. The real understanding
cannot be heard or understood, or even put in the mind.
So the real understanding is not to understand
the words, but to understand what they are pointing to?
(Through the grace of Presence: Silence)
What will happen to us when you go away?
Because you saw me coming, you suppose that
I will one day go away. I never come or go.
But you are going away soon. What will I
do in your absence?
If you know how to create separation in the
presence,
why don't you create presence in the separation?
If you don't allow the mind to create a distance,
who
goes and where does he go?
Do we need to give ourselves totally to the inner
presence?
If you believe this you are accepting that
you are on the outside and that there is something superior to you on the
inside. Give up all these ideas. You are neither outside nor
inside. Your preconceived ideas, such as 'I must experience the inner
presence', will give you an experience of an inner presence, but it will
just be a mental experience brought about by your
belief that there is an inner presence that
can be experienced. Give up all ideas such as these and stay quiet.
Who are the true Masters in the world today?
Can you name some of them?
There is only one true Master, and he is unknown.
He has no
name, no form and no abode.
Who is your own Master?
You are telling us to 'let go', but it is very
difficult.
That's because you have the idea that 'letting
go' is something that you have to do. To move from one place to another
may be difficult if the journey is long and hard. But if you don't
have to move at all, how can you say that it is difficult? Just give
up the
idea that you have to do something or reach
somewhere. That's all you have to do.
But if you say, 'It is not difficult', what is
the use of a Master? Why do you insist that we need one if it is
such an easy thing to do?
You have been conditioned to believe that
the rope is a snake. The Master is needed to convince you that the rope
is really a rope. He just tells you about what is true and real because
you insist in believing in what is untrue and unreal. Once you have
found your 'Original Nature', you do not need a Master anymore.
If a seeker leaves you and goes to another spiritual
Master, what do you do?
Where can he go? Wherever he goes,
I am.
For me, Ramana Maharshi is the perfect picture
of a Sage. Just sitting, doing nothing.
It is because you are standing that you see
him sitting.
Can the Master tell me what is happening when
there is a Guru-disciple transmission? Because it seems, paradoxically,
that nothing happens.
The Master gives the out the word of truth
and the disciple listens. When there is no thought of result or consequence,
the original state reveals itself to the disciple, who then functions spontaneously.
It just happens by itself.
I am scientist. The demonstrations of our
discoveries make the world progress. What demonstration of God can
you give?
If I gave you one, you would run away.
No, I will not run away.
Yes, this is true. The 'I' does not
run away. It is the 'you' that runs away when God appears.
To abide in emptiness frightens me. Also,
it makes me feel like I am wasting my time.
The real emptiness is not frightening.
If you experienced fear or fright, it was not in a state of emptiness.
You have never allowed yourself to experience
the emptiness that is empty of all objects. Reject all known impressions,
all pictures borrowed from the familiar world of your memory.
Sometimes my mind stops in a place where there
is nothing positive, nothing negative. There is neither joy nor sadness,
but I still feel absorbed and exalted. Is this 'no-mind'? Can
the Master bring some light on this?
To think there is 'no-mind' is still thinking.
Thinking and not thinking are both normal functions of the mind.
But in your natural being there is 'no-thought'.
Are you saying that 'no thinking' is also a thought?
I have just told you, 'Thinking and
no thinking are both normal functions of the mind'. A mind that doesn't
think thoughts, which is free of the idea of no thought as well, can be
called a free-mind'. Thought and no
thought exist in relation to each other. They
are both properties of the mind. 'No-mind' is something else. It
has no connection with anything. When the mind is so undressed that
it is free even of no-thinking, there will be nothing
left of mind. While there is the mental state of no-thought, there
is still a place where objects can land; but when no-thought is thrown
away, leaving only 'no-mind', objects cannot land anymore. In fact, in
that state there are no objects at all.
What is the 'original state'?
When the mind that discriminates disappears,
what is left is
the original state. This is what some
people call 'prajna' or enlightment.
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